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49 comments
playing shadow rift on an opponents creature essentially forces them to attack someone else with it because of giving shadow to Ivy
If you play Cadric in Gerrard you could do alot of nonsense =)
Oh crap, I thought it did say X exactly for jhoira. Nvm what I was thinking, that's already broken
If an opponent mutates, could they choose the way they do it, making your copy do the same thing and have you lose the aibilities on Ivy?
wont Ivy make your commander more susceptible to opponents single target removal. just target not ivy and also take out ivy?
Wouldn’t Gisela just three times damage
No Stang? Heartbreaking :/
It is king Darien the 48th
X is 10
L is 50
Vis 5
I is 1
With the X in fount of the L you take away 10 from 50 that make 40
I’m not positive but with gerrard and ashnods altar in the cadric deck, i think you go infinite as long as you sacrifice the original first with altar and then sacrifice the token copy with the triggered ability on the stack, right? That way the token brings back the original before the exile effect resolves? Then use the ashnods mana to re copy the gerrard with cadric. Or does the exile part of the trigger not care about zone changes?
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In the Astor deck, the equipment creatures are really useful for crew strategies. You can equip them onto a body to crew the vehicle, then equip them to the vehicle. After the vehicle attacks the creatures fall off and you've essentially cheated the reconfigure cost.
A two hour video? And it's only part one?? I get there's a lot of commanders in this set but you guys have got to learn to be brief and concise. No way I'm sitting down for two hours just to watch you two banter back and forth about each commander. FFS.
Pulled a stained glass Ivy from a prerelease and was like, “that’s cool I guess.” Clearly after watching this it’s more impressive than I thought.
Jhodah in the 99 of a god tribal deck is amazing fun.
I wonder how spellthief works with vesuvian duplimancy
No mention for Ratadrabik of Urborg? Finally a Zombie Commander!
Jenson is a Lurrus enabler. Alternatively it also can be a good filtering. if you make the Karn, living legacy powerstone tokens or stuff like that. You get to use that mana that had restrictions to make WUBRG that has no restrictions. I think it might be the best storm commander because of lurrus
Fun fact: The type line for Meria in the video is cheerios. Meria in the Malay language means cheery.
Sage of hours seems kind of broken in Ivy
Piru s great in dihada 🙂
The most interesting (not good, just interesting) idea I heard for Jenson is that it lets you make a 5 color deck with Lurrus as your companion for the first time
I’m a tad confused about the Baral’s Expertise thing, why wouldn’t you be able to do artifacts as well, you’re still only targeting one creature right?
Elas is a great commander pair it with a sacrifice combo you can go infinite on gaining and making players lose life
Wow that was so cool when Jimmy said Post Malones name
If you sac the token Gerard in response to the first ones trigger the tokens trigger returns the original to the field going infinite as long as you gen one mana
Late to the party, and not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but the CEDH crowd likes Jenson for 1 simple fact … You can now do a 5 color lurris deck.
IDK how anyone could read Ivy and not think it's powerful.
Some Ivy suggestions from my brewing before this episode
Stormchaser Drake
Sage of Hours
Season of Growth
Karn's Temporal Sundering
Knowledge Exploitation
Notorious Throng
Jhoira is gonna get banned in the first 2 months for sure
if you have trikes and tri-lands, mana fixing in Jared is super easy. that's 20 lands that each tap for 3 colors half of which have basic land types and thus are searchable. also you can just run The World Tree have chromatic lantern on a land
I like the idea of using Jodah as the head of a deck with a secret commander. Very interesting, opens up a lot more possibilities than just a generic 5 color commander.
Here's a potential interesting question…
If you have Jodah, archmage eternal on the board, would you be able to trigger Jenson off of the alternate cost for the extra 4/4 angel?
I don’t know how Josh has played this long and never once got color screwed, but if I’m running 5 colors that Lantern is definitely going in.
Utility lands aren’t slowing you down, you don’t get the wrong color 2 color lands and triomes. And the down side is it’s 3 mana instead of 2?
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Imo Jenson is better than Jared because sure, scrying isn’t super exciting, but think of how many times in a commander game you have been top decking hoping to get gas to stay in the game. Well, jenson can help kinda filter through what you need just by casting spells. Not to mention, some of the multicolored spells, like esper charm, draw you cards! And this all not mentioning that he is 2 mana and can filter your mana.
One more amazing interaction with Ivy is Estrid's invocation. It copies an aura and the Ivy copies it and then both those copies are trigger next turn and make two more, then four more increasing exponentially as long as all the Invocation triggers are aimed at Aura attached to a different creature.
They really missed the mark by not having a five color Jethro Carthalian
Can someone tell me if reflective golem and ivy works how I think it would? So Golem let’s you copy a spell that targets it, so if I use that copy and target something else will Ivy copy it twice for herself as well?
I love how the inside joke Kelpie Guy sticked all this time
I wanna see gameplay. Ivy v Zada v feather
Jhoira ceiling is crazy, but I think Meria is stronger due to consistency. The mana plus card draw is so much.
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Dryad is easier to remove, no to chromatic lol
Ivy seems like feather without the hand size problems, mana problems, or being limited to mostly pump spells.
XLVIII is 48. Its basically a math equation. X is 10, L is 50, V is 5, I is 1. If a number is less than the next number its subtracting if its greater its adding, so it ends up being 50 – 10 + 5 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 48
What about aura creatures that target a creature? do you get 2 of them?
the strongest point of that commander is the mana conversion, so you build a deck that wants to play some of the 5 color cards with a green and white base. that is not bad, because you can ramp up fast and white gives protection and board clear. you just need then some tutor to find your keycards on turn 3-4 to bring your cards in play on turn 4-5
I know this is late but turn two jhoira, turn three thousand year elixer and boost Jhoira to 2, turn four Clever Conjuror boost Jhoira to 6 drop a staff of domination, then to eight and drop a chromatic orrey and go infinite with mana, card draw, and artifact plays.
King Darien the 48th
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